Born 11 February 1798 - Spring Place, Cherokee Nation-East, IT., GA. Deceased 23 October 1844 - Aboard the Lucy Walker,aged 46 years old Parents James Vann, Chief 1809 Nancy Ann Timberlake Brown 1780-1850 Spouses and children Married, Georgia., USA, to Elizabeth Catherine Rowe 1798- with Living Vann Clarinda Rebecca Vann ca 1817- Delia Vann 1834- Indians wouldn't allow their slaves to take their husband's name. Dere come six children; Charley, Alec, Laura, Harry Richard and Jeffy, who waS named after Jefferson Davis. When I left Mrs. McGee's I worked about three years for Mr. Sterling Scott and Mr. Roddy Reese. Couldn't nobody go there, less they turn the key. Person Interviewed: Betty Robertson Location: Fort Gibson, Oklahoma Age: 93 I was born close to Webbers Falls, in the Canadian District of the Cherokee Nation, in the same year that my pappy was blowed up and killed in the big boat accident that killed my old Master. Mammy was the house girl and she weaved the cloth and my Aunt Tilda dyed the cloth with indigo, leaving her hands blue looking most of the time. Yes, my dear Lord yes. Snow on the ground and the water was muddy and all full of pieces of ice. I don't know what dey done it for, only to be mean, and I guess they was drunk. He'd take us and enjoy us, you know. In the master's yard was the slave cabin, one room long, dirt floor, no windows. In de second year of de War he sold my mammy and my aunt dat was Uncle Joe's wife and my two brothers and my little sister. She had some land close to Catoosa and some down on Greenleaf Creek. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. Brown sugar, molasses, flour, corn-meal, dried beans, peas, fruits butter lard, was all kept in big wooden hogsheads; look something like a tub. They never sent us anywhere with a cotton dress. There was music, fine music. She turned the key to the commissary too. He sold one of my brothers and one sister because they kept running off. John Joseph had two wives named Agnes Weatherford, Wawli War-le Wah Li Mary Otterlifter (Cherokee) and nine children named Keziah, John Isaac, Joseph David Joe, Alcey Mary Ann, James Clement Clemens, Avery, Mary B . My uncle used to baptize 'em. Chief Crazy James Vann James Clement Vann) Vann, Ii, <<Private>> Vann, Ii. She bossed all the other colored women and see that they sew it right. Meany and Curtis helped Joseph's family bury their chief near the village of Nespelem, Washington. I dont know, but that was before my time. Father of Nancy Vann; David Vann; Sallie Blackburn Vore; William Vann; Sophia S. Johnson and 9 others; Charles J. Vann; Delilah Amelia Brewer; Joseph W. Vann; Jane Elizabeth Vann; James Springston Vann; Mary Frances Vann; John Shepherd Vann, Sr.; Henry Clay Vann and Minerva Vann less Dey only had two families of slaves wid about twenty in all, and dey only worked about fifty acres, so we sure did work every foot of it good. There was a big dinner bell in the yard. If someone they didn't want to have it try to dig it up, money sink down, down deep in the ground where they couldn't get it. After we got our presents we go way anywhere and visit colored folks on other plantation. Joseph was the son of a Chief of the Cherokees James Vann, and Nancy Brown Vann. Chief Vann House Historic Site 22.44 KMs away from Cohutta Wilderness The Chief Vann House Historic Site is a 19th century plantation house that has been carefully restored to its original grandeur. The 1860 Census records for Oklahoma (the last Census of the slavery era), indicates that the Cherokees held 4,600 Negro slaves; the Chickasaws owned 975; the Choctaws owned, 2,344; the Creeks held 1,532; and the Seminoles reportedly owned 500. In the summer I wear them on Sunday, too. My mother was born way back in the hills of the old Flint district of the Cherokee Nation; just about where Scraper Oklahoma is now. She won me lots of money, Black Hock did, and I kept it in the Savings Bank in Tahlequah. Circa 1736 1815 Chief John Joseph Vann 1736 1815 Kansas. He come from across the water when he was a little boy, and was grown when old Master Joseph Vann bought him, so he never did learn to talk much Cherokee. It was bad, oh it was bad. He used to take us to where Hyge Park is and we'd all go fishin'. The only song I remember from the soldiers was" "Hang Jeff Davis to a Sour Apple Tree," and I remember that because they said he used to be at Fort Gibson one time. The slave cabins was in a row, and we lived in one of them. I had the money Black Hock had won on the track. Sometimes there was high waters that spoiled the current and the steamboast could't run. Sometimes Joe bring other wife to visit Missus Jennie. Unfortunately, this building was later destroyed during the American Civil War. He born at Spring Place, Georgia on February 11, 1798. Someone maybe would be playing a fiddle or a banjo. Then I had clean warm clothes and I had to keep them clean too! By and by I married Nancy Holdebrand what lived on Greenleaf Creek, bout four miles northwest of Gore. Everything we had was made by my folks. Then I had clean ward clothes and I had to keep them clean, too! In writing of him the Reverend John Gamble, a Moravian missionary said: "Mrs. Gamble and I love him as our own child and have not a complaint against him. The following year, Joseph Vann and several of his black rebels died in the explosion of his steamboat Lucy Walker during a race on the Ohio River. I eat from a big pan set on the floor---there was no chairs--and I slept in a trundle bed that was pushed under the big bed in the daytime. I don't remember much about my pappy's mother; but I remember she would milk for a man named Columbus Balreade and she went to prayer meeting every Wednesday night. Everything was kept covered and every hogshead had a lock. Wife belong to de church and all de children too, and I think all should look after saving their souls so as to drive de nail in, and den go about de earth spreading kindness and hoeing de row clean so as to clinch dat nail and make dem safe for Glory. I had to work in the kitchen when I was a gal, and they was ten or twelve children smaller than me for me to look after, too. Master Joe was sure a good provider, and we always had plenty of corn pone, sow belly and greens, sweet potatoes, cowpeas and cane molasses. They make pens out in the shallow water with poles every little ways from the river banks. When we wanted to go anywhere we always got a horse, we never walked. They had one son: Isaac Vann. Yes Lord Yes. Chief Joseph Vann Family Tree Check All Members List, June Carter Family Tree Check All Members List. I've seen em. I got my allotment as a Cherokee Freedman, and so did Cal, but we lived here at this place because we was too old to work the land ourselves. But we couldnt learn to read or have a book, and the Cherokee folks was afraid to tell us about the letters and figgers because they have a law you go to jail and a big fine if you show a slave about the letters. Pretty soon everybody commenced a singing and a prayin'. Chief James Clement Vann married Mary Margaret "Peggy" Scott and had 14 children. I remember when the steamboats went up and down the river. A few years of her life were also quite possibly spent among Seminoles during part of that time, although her memory of the death of Joseph "Rich Joe" Vann is clearly a part of Cherokee history. Source: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lpproots/Neeley/cvann.htm [3] Lucy Walker steamboat disaster, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Walker_steamboat_disaster [1]. Joseph Vann inherited the "Diamond Hill" estate from his father and from him he also inherited the ability for trading by which he increased his fortune to a fabulous size. Marster never whipped no one. I remember when the steamboats went up and down the river. Sometimes I eat my bread this morning none this evening. Den old Master get three wagons and ox teams and take us all way down on Red River in de Choctaw Nation. Dey was all wid the south, but dey was a lot of dem Pin Indians all up on de Illinois River and dey was wid de North and dey taken it out on de slave owners a lot before de War and during it too. Dey come to de house one time when he was gone to Fort Smith and us children told dem he was at Honey Springs, but they knowed better and when he got home he said somebody shot at him and bushwhacked him all the way from Wilson's Rock to dem Wildhorse Mountains, but he run his horse like de devil was sitting on his tail and dey never did hit him. I'm goin' give Lucy this black mare. Sometimes just white folks danced; sometimes just the black folks. He was accidentally killed in the explosion of one of his boats, the "Lucy Walker" which was blown up near Louisville, Kentucky on October 26, 1844. He wanted people to know he was able to dress his slaves in fine clothes. In slavery time the Cherokee Negroes do like anybody else when they is a death, jest listen to a chapter in the Bible and all cry. He had charge of all Master Chism's and Master Vann's race horses. Master Thompson brought us from Texas when I was too little to remember about it, and I din't know how long it was before we was all sold to John Harnage, "Marse John" was his pet name and he liked to be called that-a-way. Everybody, white folks and colored folks, having good itme. When the Vanns were forced from their Spring Place home in 1834, they took many slaves with them when they fled to safety in Tennessee. The cooks would bring big iron pots, and cook things right there. Joseph married Jennie Vann (born Doublehead) on date. Joseph and his sister Mary were children of James Vann and Nannie Brown, both mixed-blood Cherokees. Everything was fine, Lord have mercy on me, yes. She dye with copperas and walnut and wild indigo and things like dat and made pretty cloth. They had fine furniture that Marster Vann had brought home in a steamboat from far away. Old Master tell me I was borned in November 1852, at de old home place about five miles east of Webbers Falls, mebbe kind of northeast, not far from de east bank of de Illinois River. He wanted people to know he was able to dress his slaves in fine clothes. Among the several hundred slaves owned by the Vanns at that time, many were skilled craftsmen and tradesmen capable of helping build such a fine house. He didn't tell us children much about the War, except he said one time that he was in the Battle of Honey Springs in 1863 down near Elk Creek south of Fort Gibson. You can take a bus from Monheim am Rhein to Cologne via Leverkusen Leverkusen Mitte Bf in around 1h 24m. Biography. As a result, they had to settle in Indian Territory (now Oklahoma). When the white folks danced the slaves would all sit or stand around and watch. Young Master Vann never very hard on us and he never whupped us, and old Mistress was a widow woman and a good Christian and always kind. My husband didn't give me nothing. After the Removal, Joseph Vann was chosen the first Assistant Chief of the united Cherokee Nation under the new 1839 Constitution that was created in Indian Territory (Oklahoma), serving with Principal Chief John Ross. He was a multi-millionaire and handsome. Mr. Reese had a big flock of peafowls dat had belonged to Mr. Scott and I had to take care of demWhitefolks. Everybody had a good time. The participants in this near slave revolt received physical punishments, but none were killed. Everybody laugh and was happy. My names' Lucinda Vann, I've been married twice but that don't make no difference. Old Master Joe was a big man in the Cherokees, I hear, and was good to his Negroes before I was born. When the war come they have a big battle away west of us, but I never see any battles. He was a Cherokee leader who owned Diamond Hill (now known as the Chief Vann House), many slaves, taverns, and steamboats that he operated on the Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee Rivers. I sure did love her. In summer when it was hot, the slaves would sit in the shade evening's and make wooden spoons out of maple. My pappy was a kind of a boss of the negroes that run the boat, and they all belong to Old Maser Joe. Malone, Henry Thompson, Cherokees of the Old South: A People in Transition, University of Georgia Press, (1956), ISBN 0670034207. Seem like it take a powerful lot of fighting to rid the country of them Rebs. Sometimes she pull my hair. Everybody went---white folks, colored folks. Indians wouldn't allow their slaves to take their husband's name. She was weavin when the case came up so quick, missus Jennie put her in her own bed and took care of her. After we got our presents we go way anywhere and visit colored folks on other plantation. We made money and kept it in a sack. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. My father was born in Tahlequah just about where the colored church stands on Depot Hill. Cal Robertson was eighty-nine years old when I married him forty years age, right on this porch. Dey called young Mr. Joe "Little Joe Vann" even after he was grown on account of when he was a little boy before his pappy was killed. At the time that the interviews were conducted, the Vanns had been gone from Georgia for more than 100 yearsconsequently none of the slaves the Vanns owned in Spring Place were still alive. Mistress say old Master and my pappy on the boat somewhere close to Louisville and the boiler bust and tear the boat up. Mammy had the wagon and two oxen, and we worked a good size patch there until she died, and then I git married to Cal Robertson to have somebody to take care of me. Everybody was happy. 467-91. At least twenty-five of Vann's slaves participated in the Cherokee slave revolt of 1842. Mammy say they was lots of excitement on old Masters place and all the Negroes mighty scared, but he didnt sell my pappy off. but it sunk and him and old Master died. Chief Joseph H. Vann was a prominent Cherokee leader in Georgia. Old Master bought de cotton in Ft. Smith, because he didn't raise no cotton, but he had a few sheep and we had wool mix for winter. Dey was both raised round Webber's Falls somewhere. Marster and Missus was dead. In winter white folks danced in the parlor of the big house; in summer they danced on a platform under a great big brush arbor. The most terrible thing that ever happen was when the Lucy Walker busted and Joe got blew up. Lots of the slave children didn't ever learn to read or write. They spun the cottons and wool, weaved it and made cloth. Used to go up and down the river in his steamboat. I never did see my daddy excepting when I was a baby and I only know what my mammy told me about him. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. Coming out of the army for the last time, Pappa took all the family and moved to Fort Scott, Kansas, but I guess he feel more at home wid the Indians for pretty soon we all move back, this time to a farm near Fort Gibson. They could have anything they wanted. Dat was one poor negro dat never go away to de North and I was sorry for him cause I know he must have had a mean master, but none of us Sheppard negroes, I mean the grown ones, tried to get away. Old Master had some kind of business in Fort Smith, I think cause he used to ride into dat town about every day on his horse. One day Missus Jennie say to Marster Jim, she says, "Mr. Vann, you come here. Some niggers say my pappy kept hollering, Rum it to the bank! Now I'se just old forgotten woman. Well, I'll tell you, you pull it out from the wall something like a shelf. He and his sister Mary were children of James Vann and Nannie Brown, both Cherokee of mixed blood with white-European ancestry. The commissary was full of everything good to eat. Although Lucinda Vann was owned by Jim Vann, she told about the death of "Rich Joe" Vann and the recovery of one of his arms, following the deadly explosion on his steamboat, the Lucy Walker. The master's house was a big log building setting east and west, with a porch on the north side of the house. He had apparently been attending the horse races at Louisville, KY. Vann, Joseph H., Cherokee Rose: On Rivers of Golden Tears, 1st Books Library (2001), ISBN 0-75965-139-6. Uncle Joe tell us all to lay low and work hard and nobody'd bother us and he would look after us. After de War was over, Old Master tell me I am free but he will look out after me cause I am just a little negro and I ain't got no sense. I had a silver dine on it, too, for a long time, but I took it off and got me a box of snuff. Trusted by millions of genealogists since 2003. . All the colored folks lined up and the overseer he tell them what they must do that day. His Uncle John Vann was the son in law of Terrepin and grandson-in-law of Oconastota; Oconastota was. Yes Lord Yes. Built circa 1805 by Chief James Vann and his son Joseph, the home is a remarkable reminder of an interesting chapter in Georgia's past. They was Cherokee Indians. After it was wove they dyed it all colors, blue, brown, purple, red, yellow. Seneca Chism was my father. The other tribes were the Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, and Seminole.. Don't know where the other one lived. We went down to the river for baptizings. De hog killing mean we gots lots of spare-ribs and chitlings and somebody always git sick eating to much of dat fresh pork. James Vann had several other wives and children. He was a Cherokee leader who owned Diamond Hill (now known as the Chief Vann House), many slaves, taverns, and steamboats that he operated on the Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee Rivers. After the war I married Paul Alexander, but I never took his name. The command of the Army was shared by Doublehead and Watts. He went clean to Louisville, Kentucky, and back. In summer when it was hot, the slaves would sit in the shade evenings and make wooden spoons out of maple. After being evicted from his father's mansion home "Diamond Hill" in 1834, Joseph moved his large family (he had two wives) and business operations to Tennessee, where he established a large plantation on the Tennessee River near the mouth of Ooltewah Creek that became the center of a settlement called Vann's Town (later the site of Harrison, Tennessee). There was five hundred slaves on that plantation and nobody ever lacked for nothing. Two pounds of hog meat sold for a nickel. Although Joseph Vann's body was never found, slave Lucinda Vann revealed that one of his arms had been found, positively identified, and taken to Vann's home at Webbers Falls, Oklahoma, where it was preserved for many years. We take a big pot to fry fish in and we'd all eat till we nearly bust. I slept on a sliding bed. He related an unpleasant encounter with "Little Joe" Vann, son of "Rich Joe" Vann. Clarinda Vann and my aunt Maria turned the keys to the vault and commissary. That meant she want a biscuit with a little butter on it. Courtesy of Atlanta History Center. The commissary was full of everyting good to eat. De furniture is all gone, and some said de soldiers burned it up for firewood. Run it to the bank!" Pretty soon everybody commenced a singing and a prayin'. We all come back to de old place and find de negro cabins and barns burned down and de fences all gone and de field in crab grass and cockleburs. 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