Better dont write anymore here and avoid provoking the kongu community people. Are they both one and the same or different.Can somebody explain it. This vansha was named after Raja Gangeya. if anybody knows it let it be spread to all our community people.Vaalha Kongu Vellalar community.Valarha avarhalin perumai.VelumaniVilli Kula Kongu Lion. [14][15] Though the Vellalar have generally been associated with the landed gentry and agriculture, they are not a homogenous group and various people from diverse backgrounds have identified themselves as a Vellalar in the course of history. Thanks. This caused a Vettuvar population explosion in the early 9th century and created a complex social structure, with the chieftains of the Vettuvars calling themselves Koundar. The ceremony is led by person called an Arumbukarar or Arumaikkarar, who must be married and should have children. . With gas cylinder as its symbol, allotted just 14 days before the polls, the KNMK out-performed actor Vijaykanths DMDK in Coimbatore, Pollachi, Tiruppur and Erode. reinstate our leadership in our state n country.balu_9988@yahoo.co.in. The word Gounder is mainly used as a caste name by the Kongu Vellalars, a Kshatriya clan in Tamil Nadu, who are also called the Vellala Gounders. Eagle. 9.2.1998 Koteyar,Kotekshatriya kotegar,KotegarsRamakshatriya Ramarajakshatriya Servegara,Sheragra Are there equivalent lists of Scottish clans, for example? instead we have more problems! They use 'gounder' as a title and hence they are also known as Kongu Vellala Gounders. . . Antuvan; 2. APB Chezian (Producer) Ganavel Durairaj Sibiraj Ranjith Kaliyappa Gounder (Producer) Kovai Gounder (Producer) Sathyaraj Sivakumar Surya Nagarajan The Velama and Ballai castes of the neighboring states of Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka, respectively, are believed to be historically related to the Vellala, but at . [32] The Hoysala king Veera Ballala III is even now locally known as the 'Vellala Maharaja' in Thiruvannamalai, the town that served as their capital in 14th century. Modavanthi Gounders i think it is something different from Kongu Vellalar community. When, RGI, State government and SC/ST Commission have approved the recommendation, the proposal would be sent to Cabinet for amending relevant sections in the legislation. The prominent Kongu Nadu-based parties, Kongunadu Munnetra Kazhagam and later Kongunadu Makkal Desiya Katchi, were primarily Gounder caste outfits similar to the PMK for Vanniyars. They really will not do as sources here. Let us have local organizations with representatives from all sections and find solutions. Why haven't they done anything? Did you family members mixed the concrete, prepared the bricks and constructed the house?First think rationally in true terms.. NOt the pseudo rationality of the DKs.. /** I am more proud to call myself a 'Tamilian' than a Gounder. However, the government's position has been that inclusion or classification of castes in any list is solely the work of the Backward Classes Commission. Central MP position is even bad 5/11 constituencies and no central ministers from the community while Vanniars and Thevars have 3 strategic ministers each. [57] The Adi-saiva vellalar sect is a strictly vegetarian Saivite group that traditionally served as priests. Imagine while travelling back home you are thrown out from your railway compartment by a Brahmin/North Indian - saying your caste/colour as the reason .You should be thankful for leaders like Gandhiji, EVR that such a situation does not exist in India today ..Its easy to criticize them - but it is difficult to understand what they said, leave alone following it. Can he declare that in other castes 100% people are good enough. It is our only identity.Long live Great Tamil.**/Prabha.. Some scholars saw the KMK's presence in the Kongu belt as contributing to the ADMK's victory in those constitutencies. I am debating based on common sense..Please use your brain, and then compare the incidents../** On American Slavery and untoucability - American slavery is 100% abolished now. /** If I could make a 10% change in your viewpoints that is enough for me **/This is the core problem here.. you consider yourself as moral authority and attempt to change me.. instead of debating, your aim is changing me.. /**Untouchability is a crime. 16.02.2009, our politicians know the art of divide and rule method learnt from British people and implement it in our State. Mother Tongue. The stone is said to represent the Kongu king and the worship is a symbolic request for permission of the marriage, as in the old days the king was supposed to give permission for every marriage. The Kongu Vellala Gounders are appreciated for their varied qualities like untiring hardwork, objective nature, high moderation, honesty, humanitarian spirit, commitment, philanthrophy, strong bonding, innovative mind and reliability. But dont become prey to these kind of cheap caste politics. The Kongu Vellala Gounders are appreciated for their varied qualities like untiring hardwork, objective nature, high moderation, honesty, humanitarian spirit, commitment, philanthrophy, strong bonding, innovative mind and reliability. If they are unable to tell their kulam / koottam definitely they are not Kongu Vellala.So you can try that method to find out whether they have any Kulam / Koottam. and trying to justify the casteism. Contents 1 Etymology 2 Origin 3 History 4 Traditional duties 5 Caste structure 6 Culture 6.1 Marriage 7 Present status 8 References Etymology The Vellalar of the Kongu country came to be known as Kongu Vellalar. If you think you are superior in one place in other place you are inferior.Education doesn't seem to make any difference in eradicating the social menace. It exists for the Kongu Vellalar Gounder or Vellala Gounder community. I have suggested long back that our IT professionals of Kongu Geniuses can launch a website by getting a sponsor from leading personalities in our community.Nobody has come forward for doingthis. [65], During the British colonial period, the Vellalars who were land owners and tillers of the soil and held offices pertaining to land, were ranked as Sat-Sudra in the 1901 census; with the Government of Madras recognising that the 4-fold division (four varnas) did not describe the South Indian, or Dravidian, society adequately. Now wait for the excuses will count the votes of all the KNMP candidates polled and say that we have support of so many people thanks for them .blah ..blah ..blah .Ha ha ..Needed this for Easwaran who roamed like a telugu film rowdy in Kovai streets and not to mention about the Thaniyarasu who lorded in the Namakkal belt by doing Katta panchayathu Eagle. hey im nisha n im 4m malaysia..i'm 4m d gounder caste..nice blog..could learn much more bout our caste..hmmm..juz wondering bout our caste's marriage..can v lyk get married 2 diff castes? Confirmed - both KNMP and KNIP - A BIG ZERO. According to the Bill, the category of MBC(V) will include the Vanniyar, Vanniya, Vannia Gounder, Gounder or Kander, Padayachi, Palli and Agnikula Kshatriya sub-castes that come . Its wake up call. Let us break the ice by creating such website and pave the way to others. ? I am more proud to call myself a 'Tamilian' than a Gounder. Location : Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, India. Non-veg not allowed as Hansraj College follows Arya Samaj philosophy, won't withdraw order: Principal, Authorities worried about Badrinath riches in Joshimath, HISTORY: Parliament House was opened on January 18, 1927 with much fanfare, Shubman Gill becomes youngest batter to smashdouble ton in 1st ODI against New Zealand, Dutee 'provisionally suspended' for doping offence; athlete says no such communication, Priyanka Chopra Jonas hosts 'RRR' screening in US. Many of the Nayanmars, the Shaiva saints, were Vellalar. It had no television channel of its own, no experienced politician and no alliance partner. After seeing the results, let us discuss again. Your views border almost on extreme right-wing. The caste title, Vellalar, refers to people who performed agriculture as profession traditionally. The Tolkappiyam does not contain the term Vellalar but refers to a group of people called Velaan Maanthar who apart from practising agriculture had the right to carry weapons and wear garlands when they were involved in affairs of the state. Register Free. Contents 1 Demographics 2 History 2.1 Theories of Origin 3 Lineage (Kootam) and Subgroups 3.1 Royal Lineages and Gothras 3.2 Subgroups 4 Language of Gounders 5 Peculiar customs 6 Marriage customs I am disappointed, that instead of discussing history, politics is discussed.Mr. Many clan or kootam names remind of such great cowherds and marginal landlords. Hi Please don take this offensive.im also KV, Ur efforts are awesome n great and very informative. Name Email. 12: G.O (MS) No. Even the Vellalas proper, those who are of Vellala origin-are not a homogeneous unit but are subdivided into small sections. If this is a notable subject then it will have been covered in the English language anyway, especially since English is one of the languages of India. 8/98/SCSTDD Dated. my village is kothayam,ottanchatram taluk.my village is 20km from palani and attanchatram,my village 5km away from my kulladeyvam koyil. To View Full Profile. Most initially identified with their clan names and their chiefs with the Gounder title, but eventually coalesced into a single group called Kongu Vellalar Gounder. Marabalan had various titles such as Gangavamsa, Devar, Vellalar, Bupaalan, etc. In contrast, just a few major communities which have been classified as MBCs are enjoying the benefit of 20% reservation. [46][47], The Vellalars of Sri Lanka have been chronicled in the Yalpana Vaipava Malai and other historical texts of the Jaffna kingdom. Come down from the pedestal, accept the realities, be practical and above all try to all encompassing - if you still want to do politics with PCR act and all you will become the political untouchable and by next election you are finished ..Aru Pon - I respect your views. It looks like a pre-planned strategy to join AIADMK, cause they went to Chennai 2 days after the Karumathampatti ARASIAL EZUCHI MANADU.If anyone could help me in this it would be highly appreciative.Thanks,Suresh Kumar. [54], Even though at present, the term Vellalar has come to mean a farmer or agricultural people, a number of non-cultivating landholding castes like Kaarukaatha Velaalar and the Kondaikatti Velaalar who served ruling dynasties in various capacities also identify themselves as Vellalar. Adar; 5. Kongumandalasatakam says that the cattle raid was successfully repelled by Arjuna (Bruhannala) with Uttarakumaran, the son of the King Viratarayan of Ladapuram (modern Dharapuram) at a skirmish at the banks of the Kanchi (Noyil) (dates: 3100 B.C, Mahabharata). The reason is that one of that Modavanthi Gounders had requested for an marriage with my sister !Please help me to sort it out. As late as 1930-1940's the Nairs of Kerala used to exploited their women workers by asking them to work topless .3. ., , , , , , , , , -, , , , , -, , -- . I Pray Lord Muruga to shower His blessings on your sister and your family. ulagukke unavu tharum unnatha thozhil nam vivasayam.. this blog is really great to know about our prestigious caste.. let we all join hand to rule the world.. all the best to all my relatives in this world. mr.velumani kongu lion.. i really appreciate ur words and ur sincerety towards ur kongu community. [10] The term Velaalar () can be derived from the word Vel (), Vel being a title that was borne by the Velir chieftains of Sangam age among other things. It should be reformed so that it is not used for personal vengeance..Apart from reservation and pcr acts there are other things which has to be attended in kongu area..Can you list the development schemes undertaken by the government for the past 40 years in the kongu region.. Someone like thooran should write the history of our caste(unbiased!). So dont put caste in front of your political ambitions. & date 1 . Only very few people may be like that. Wait n watch vote for kongu..we love kongu..love gounder caste.what ever u say gounder is gounder..nee yennamo sollitu poo.we dont care..GOUNDER GOUNDER GOUNDER.BORN AS GOUNDER ..DIE AS GOUNDER..LOVE GOUNDER CASTE..1 vote vaanginalum sari..100 vote vaanginalam sari..goundan goundan thaan. kvgians must share this to all. To achieve a best position running behind de caste and exercising suppremacy wont help. Etymology. Weclome to another PMK in the making .Eagle. Marabalan turned to agriculture and his descendants became the Vellalar. pls remember of periyar's and barathi's words. The same cannot be said of Untouchability. , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Home | Search | Register . Handle gas cylinder cautiously otherwise it is dangerous..If we are really interested in the development of local bodies, we should organize locally and find solutions to our problems. But they are pure tamilians. Identification. These Nadus are arranged in 4 groups of 6 villages each headquartered at Palayakottai, Kangayam, Pudur and Kadayur. Please wait while we approve your request. Right Angle,Unconditional apologies for the perceived personal attack ..controversial word withdrawn And am not for debate If I could make a 10% change in your viewpoints that is enough for me Untouchability is a crime. Success or failure, no matter. Nowhere Mr. Velumani degraded any other community. Kari; 12. kiran; 13. Awesome! Vellalar is a generic Tamil term used primarily to refer to various castes who traditionally pursued agriculture as a profession in the Indian states of Tamil Nadu, Kerala and northeastern parts of Sri Lanka. Caste/Community Resolution No. In the TN election history except Congress, DMK and AIADMK no other party has won 50 seats In the current TN politics certain things are simply impossible Whether KNMP leadrship realises it or not ..you dont waste your time dreaming on that .Take care.Eagle. [e], The Irungovels are considered to be of the same stock as the Hoysalas as in one of the Sangam poems, the ancestor of the Irungovel chieftain is said to have ruled the fortified city of Tuvarai. if kongu parties have to get something concrete, then 1. unite all kongu parties and bring under one banner2. How many rich persons really helped poors? [5], The Vellalar are spoken of as a group of people right from the Sangam period and are mentioned in many of the classical works of Sangam literature. i dont know whyeven educated people are also like that onlyashamed of urself. Hi,This is very useful blog to know about Kongu family. Users can search Kongu vellala gounder divorcee brides Profiles by using the filter option which includes several categories such as region, caste, sub-caste, profession, income, location, qualification, zodiac sign, mother tongue, and physical appearances like color, weight, height.Our site provides 24/7 customer care service, if you have any . Not . i belong to villi kulam. The author of this blog, himself a Gounder belongs to the Elumathur Panangadai clan, seeks to venture at the various facets of the inseperable Gounder and Kongu histories. 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